Minnesota teen reportedly dies from 2C-E drug overdose

Ban research chemicals and importing? Why don’t we just lock up the crazy voodoo wizard scientists and burn them at the stake while we’re at it? Stunting scientific research in the guise of public safety is exactly the type of activity that pushes society towards something similar to germany during the holocaust era.

That aside, it is sad that the only time people hear about these things is through negative media. Yet, the death of this snobby looking teenager (who probably would have been picked off by natural selection by something else sooner or later for being dumb enough to overdose) is sadly enough to push “concerned parents” to push for drug criminalization. Neglecting the fact, of course, that one death from an obscure research chemical in comparison with the death rates of things like obesity, pharmaceutical (and government approved!) drugs, cigarettes, automobiles (the list goes on and on) is significantly small.

Alright new guy I had to post a comment just to counter your idiocy. 2C-E and all related compounds have been around for eleven years with this being the only death related to 2C-E during which tens of thousands of people consumed it with no seriousl adverse effects……..YOU’RE THE IDIOT—ARE YOU INDICATING YOUR ADVOCATING THE USE OF CHEMICALS THAT ARE NOT—MUCH OF TIME FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION? FURTHER ON THAT NOTE, ARE YOU STATING THAT SOMEHOW BECAUSE THOUSANDS OF IDIOTS HAVE CONSUMED THE SUBSTANCE AND HAD “NO ADVERSE EFFECTS” HOW DO YOU KNOW?—YOU WERE A FOOL THAT DANCED WITH THAT DEVIL? AND HOW DO YOU REALLY KNOW THAT SERIOUS, LONG TERM NEUROLOGICAL EFFECTS ARE NOT HAPPENING? I DO FIND TODAY’S YOUTH MUCH OF THE TIME LIMITED.

, maybe if this absolutely retarded douchebag didnt attempt to look cool in front of his friends by railing a drug that he knew nothing about this wouldnt have happened…….WERE YOU THERE? , WERE YOU INVOLVED HOW WOULD YOU KNOW SUCH TO MAKE SUCH A STATEMENT? YOU CAN NOT STATE WHAT WOULD OR WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED—UNLESS YOU WERE THERE—HOW IGNORANT AND INSENSITIVE OF YOU TO DEFAME A DEAD BOY. YOU’RE THE DOUCHE BAG. FURTHER IF THOSE WHO WERE THERE DID NOT ASSIST SOMEONE IN DISTRESS OR CAUSE HARM TO THEM WHEN THEY ARE IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION IS CONTRIBUTORY NEGLIGENCE AND IS CRIMINALLY LIABLE.

, maybe if he even did a couple minutes research on what he was buying this wouldnt have happened. –WHAT AN ILLOGICAL ARGUMENT—SO MANY TEENS SPEND THEIR TIME RESEARCHING THE EFFECTS OF CHEMICALS OR DRUGS WILL HAVE ON THEM BEFORE GETTING HIGH NOT—THAT WOULD MAKE TOO MUCH SENSE FOR THE LOST SOULS. DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THOSE HOW SNUFF SPRAY PAINT, GLUE, MARKERS, EAT BATH SALTS AND GO AFTER SYNTHETIC OTHER DRUGS WOULD EVEN TAKE THE TIME TO CARE WHAT IT IS DOING TO THEM?—THAT IS IDIOCY AND DOES NOT JUSTIFY YOUR LAST ILLOGICAL STATEMENT

For you to go and say we need to ban everything goes to show how foolish and naive you are I guess we should ban tylenol too eh..TYLENOL HAS NOT EVER BEEN RESEARCHED TO BE HARMFUL WHEN TAKEN AS DIRECTED DOES NOT CAUSE PROBLEMS. IT HAS BEEN RESEARCHED AND PROVEN TO BE A PAIN RELIEVER NOT A SUBSTANCE THAT IS BEING SOLD AS A RESEARCH CHEMICAL WITHOUT DATA OR RESEARCH WHAT IT DOES WHEN CONSUMED BY HUMANS—DOSE WITHSTANDING—WHICH ABOVE FURTHER NEGATES YOUR STATEMENT THAT SUCH DATA EXISTS FOR THOSE ACADEMIC DRUG ADDICTS SEEKING KNOWLEDGE BEFORE KILLING BRAIN CELLS. WE DO NEED TO BAN THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY…IF IT IS ABUSED IT DOES NEED REGULATION.

that causes a good hundred deaths or so EVERY YEAR.—YEAH WHEN CHASING THE DEVILS TAIL AND ABUSING IT OR BEING AN ILLITERATE MORAN AND NOT MERELY USING IT FOR IT’S INTENDED USE. IF SOMEONE IS ALLERGIC—THAT WHOLE DIFFERENT SITUATION—THE CHEMICAL THAT KILLED THIS BOY WAS NOT INTENDED FOR HUMAN USE—IF IT WERE HELPFUL—IT WOULD BE PRESCRIBED IT HAS NO MEDICAL PURPOSE—TYLENOL DOES.

To be clear–I was not against Trevor..but to add to detail you gave…

don’t believe that this article said anything about the fact that if they would have waited for the paramedics to get there, instead of his friends leaving him IN FRONT of the hospitial, not bothering to walk him in. THAT SHOWS CLEARLY THEY WHO BROUGHT HIM WERE GUILTY—WHY WOULD ANYONE EVER THINK WAITING FOR AN AMBULANCE WOULD DELAY ACCESS TO NEEDED MEDICAL CARE AND LEAVING SOMEONE TO BE FOUND IN A PARKING LOT WAS A BETTER IDEA–BESIDES HOSPITAL AT LEAST 3-5 MILES AWAY–AND AN AMBULANCE WOULD BE SLOWER?

That there is a better possibility that he would have made it.
NOT BASED ON THE ILLELOGICAL CHOICE MADE ABOVE.

Also I don’t believe it mentioned that his friends watched him beat his head agasint a wall, and saw that he was having trouble breathing. YEAH CALL 911–THEY DID NOT WANT TO GET INTO TROUBLE–CONTRIBUTORY.

They waited until after his heart quit beating to bring him to the hospitial. AND NOT CALL 911–HE IS IN MEDICAL EMERGENCY–BUT WE WILL DRIVE HIM–DOES NOT MAKE SENSE–AND THEY SHOULD BE LIABLE AND FEEL BAD–IT WAS NOT BAD CHOICE–IT WAS GET RID OF THE EVIDENCE–DUMPING IN A PARKING LOT SHOWS NO REMORSE.

Before you judge people for one mistake that was made, get the whole story. I WAS NOT JUDGING, NOW I AM.

apologies…

Should we ban drain cleaner because of idiots who cannot read what happens if you drink too much of it?

To the posters hating on Trevor for being a “retarded douchebag”, I understand where you are coming from but I disagree with the intensity of your argument. This was a human being, and you’re raving about him like he was Hitler or something. Cool down, acknowledge that he probably wasn’t very bright to do what he did, but recognize that this is still a tragedy. It’s always unfortunate to see a young person die, especially in such bizarre circumstances. I can’t imagine the pain that his family must be going through right now.

In my opinion, 2c-e is a drug that can be used responsibly, although I agree with the posters that caution about the lack of formal research regarding this substance. I also recognize that this drug isn’t for everybody. Perhaps if we had more unambiguous legislation concerning 2c-e, this sort of tragedy could have been avoided.

Finally, @Just Saying: I hope to God that English isn’t your native language.

@”teh man” your a jerk. I hope you at least have a GED–advocating drug usage–your just as ridiculous.
Use spell check next time and at least in your name title. “Unambiguous” would mean having or exhibiting a single clearly defined meaning; therefore it would more clearly define NOT FOR USE AND MAKE IT SO THAT OTHERS wold not fall fate to the stupidity of using drugs to find their lost souls. I was not hating Trevor and said nothing of the sort, but you seem to want to advocate drug usages as alright and by reading labels or measuring dosages then it would then just be okay–that is what physicians and pharmacist, chemist do–not those seeking to get high–they are abusing a drug period the end. I agree now with many of the intensive poster..natural selection of the stupid and many are just waiting in line.

“Just saying” it easy to interpret what you are saying. You need drugs to be happy with life. your drug of choice, is being scrutinized possibly to the point of becomeing illegal. So now you have to take it out on the only one you can. You are no different than the parents who just lost their son taking it out on the drug that may or may not have killed him. If all you use are discriptive words about the kid, it’s not our ignorance but yours. Alcohol kills thousands every year, not just the drinkers but innocent parties. Where is your proof that no one on this drug has killed anyone? I see no proof that there are no long term effects. Your repsponses show your age and maturity. A place I was at for many years. Having found real happiness I only wish you luck on your future.

I have used LSD, Cocaine, Opiates, Pot, and many other substances including much alcohol. None of this made me smarter or an expert on these substances. Yes I almost overdosed myself. I know many people walking around with severe mental issues from using mind altering substances. They are stuck in misery and have no way out. I can tell that many of you are young and feel you know all about the long term effects. You feel adults have no intelligence about these chemicals. We have lived it all of our lives. Keep it up, you will suffer. This is a guarantee! A clear mind is a very powerful tool. Keep it that way. Fill your mind with something much more productive. Music, art, or try God! Let’s pray for this young man who is as important on this earth as anyone of us. My sympathy to his friends and family. also those involved with this incident.

I could not make it very far into the responses on the original post before getting overly angry.

First and foremost, I want to say that I blame my daughter for the horrible decision she made on ingesting this designer drug that she thought would give her a trip. Now let me tell you about our experience and you put yourselvs in our shoes for one minute and tell me that you don’t want intervention to get these drugs banned.

4am Sunday March 20 the phone rings. It’s a panicked 17 year old girl telling us our daughter is freaking out. She’s not sure why. The adult at the apartment thinks our daughter took something since her pupils are dilated. We rush over to the 7 minute away apartment. Half way up the stairs to the apartment we can hear our 16 year old daugther screaming.

Now imagine walking into a room where an adult is laying across your daughter, holding her down and your daughter is screaming things that make zero sense, sweating, thrashing, cussing, her eye won’t stop moving yet she can focus on nothing. As her mother I take over sitting on her. Positive she’ll see me and realize that there is someone she can trust. She can’t even see me, nor can she respond to what I’m asking her. She doesn’t have any clue as to what’s happening with her right now. She wears me down physically, yet smaller than me and half my age she’s winning this physical battle and I’m not fat, out of shape or weak in any way. Her father now has to hold her down, in the meantime she’s so loud we have to keep her mouth covered to avoid her scaring the whole apartment complex. Only 5 Minutes goes on before we realize she’s not going to recognize us or relax. An ambulance, 4 cops, 2 paramedics and a volunteer fire fighter have to fight her to strap her to a backboard, tape her head to the backboard and handcuff her hands in front of her just to get her to the ambulance. She’s 16, 5’6″ and 110 pounds and so out of control it takes that many people to restrain her.

At the hospital she continues on and on and it’s only after 16 mg of Ativan before she relaxes. 1/2 a mg is all it takes for a grown 200 pound man to relax and my baby has to have 16 mg.

36 hours later almost and my daughter is still sleeping, we can’t keep her awake for more than 5-10 minutes at a time. Her father and I are sitting in the best childrens hospital in the country and even the doctors had never dealt with this drug, therefore, they cannot give her anything else because her liver is already working overtime to rid her of these chemicals.

You tell me you want to hold your child down who can’t focus, say a complete sentence, make any sense at all, doesn’t recognize you and has thrashed around so much that she’s bruised literally from her face, to her arms to her legs and her own nails gouged her legs and stomach, then I say fine don’t ask for it to be banned and removed from easy access.

I would not wish this upon my worst enemy and have never seen anything so scary in my life. The only difference between my daughter and the girl on the excorsist is that our daughter didn’t vomit green and spin her head completely around her neck. She may as well have though she was that girls twin for almost 4 straight hours until all the Ativan could calm her down.

Tell me you would ask for that experience and I would tell you that you’re a damn liar!

Hey Somerset, nobody gives a rat’s ass about banning drugs, guns, anything. Really, oh really were you in Germany during the holocaust? And the only reason you think the girl looks dumb is cause society allowed people like you to make and raise dumb children. That’s almost as ridiculous as the parents blaming their daughter and taking no responsibility. Maybe banning drugs is the only way to try to protect people who don’t know how to “(practice) medicine” from themselves. You and the idiot Tobias reaper should get together and have some coffee. Ha! You guys are all screwed up and you are the world as we know it. No wonder! It’s all about human behavior, common sense and what is now permissible in society. Gees that may be why you hear about it. There Seems to be too many revisions to the structure of life as written by you know who, begins with G and ends with D. Bullet Proof Hey! Hows that warranty working now? Ialmao @U omg

Let’s be realistic about this:

- There’s no detail as to *how much* this Trevor dude consumed. If you take enough of /anything/ it can probably kill you.

- This guy doesn’t look like a responsible person, he very well could be the type to not take things seriously and try something stupid like 2000mg of 2CE of his 5000mg bag that he bought for 200 dollars of money that he stole from his parents

- 10 others hospitalized for all we know just means that the 10 other people who took 2ce (whatever amount) went inpatient because they were concerned for their own well being– for all we know that granted is a smart move may have not even been necessary.

- Not all RC vendors are reliable, some of them have sold substances that were mislabeled before that as a result led to deaths because the dose ranges were significantly different from what was perceived to be a chemical that it was not (see bromo-dragonfly.) If anything, this just goes to show hat we should not ban research chemicals because clandestine and un-certified vendors tend to screw up when their ass is not on the line.

My deepest condolences to Trent and his family who must be devastated right now. This story is very heartbreaking to read yes we all make stupid mistakes it’s just awful that he made the wrong one and it cost him his life.
I understand how people are flipping out about this but you have to realize, yes he did make a COMPLETELY stupid mistake on not researching the drug before consuming. Look at basic wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2ce

The average dose is 10-20MG, i read in another article “Cmdr. Paul Sommer of the Anoka County Sheriff’s Department said Lamere purchased the drug from an online chemical retailer. The criminal complaint said Lamere had 8.9 grams of the drug in a bottle in his pocket”

8.9 grams???!! that’s freaking insane to have that much of 2ce! People need to understand what they’re doing and how to consume this drug before even thinking about having it. For one it isn’t a ‘hardcore party drug’ like Ecstasy, Special K, Coke, or Meth , it’s a research chemical that’s only been around since early 2000 where as it’s cousin 2cb has been around since the 1980s. The fact of the matter is regardless of whether or not you do the drug have some common sense; ANY drug you consume should NOT be treated like candy.
Folks i hate to tell you but this drug is not for tripping, it’s used as a tool to open up your mind and visually experience your sensory perception. Scientists are the ones that developed it not drug lords looking to get a new sale. People looking to gain a ‘trip’ and don’t learn anything by it shouldn’t be taking this drug in the first place. The experience can be both beautiful and very scary but you have to channel it correctly in order to use it without abusing it. I have no need for tripping anymore but any drug you do consume you have to do it with the correct mindset and know what you’re getting yourself into. Another thing is these kids were basically underage minors looking for a night of partying, i get this but you don’t go snorting unknown substances you have no idea of what the effect is or how long it can last.

What the media isn’t posting is that did they ever consider that the reason the 10 other people were flipping out to the point of hospitalization was because they were having a bad trip since their friend was dying? of course no one considered that possibility, it naturally causes hallucinations with a even a little dose of 10mg, i could BARELY EVEN IMAGINE what those kids were experiencing going in blind with little knowledge of what to do with the drug or how to react when they were probably at their peak when 19 year old was suffering from ODing on 2ce. They must be terrified for life.
Another thing is that they said they snorted it like cocaine because they weren’t getting the immediate effect, if anyone knows the effects of 2ce they would of realized that you slowly ease into the effects over a period of 12 hours. Hence ODing on 2ce would be insane because not only are you risking that you won’t be coming out of the effects for the 12 hours more like 48 hours or longer but you’re also slaming down (scientific research) chemicals like it’s poprocks. Also you NEVER snort 2Ce,it’s supposed to be taken in a gel capsule that is PROPERLY measured. PLus not only does this increase the high and also with increased consumption, talk about painful.

My point of this post is regardless of what actually happened, the moral of the story is people really need to read the fine print before flaring into the unknown with shotguns raised blindfolded.

2-CE is the shit!

So you guys realize this is the only recorded death from any of the 2C family right? more people die from bee stings and shark attacks. It is tragic that he lost his life and left behind a newborn child… but I mean for real… you have a greater risk of dying from a allergic reaction. nobody bans peanut butter because one person dies from it… the body is a mystery we have yet to decipher all the way… never will most likely.

Live your life, make your choices… have no regrets. what happens happens and there’s nothing you can do about it. more laws are not the answer… common sense is the answer. know what you’re getting into… if it’s worth the risks than it’s worth the risks. people label psychedelics as “drugs” when in all actuality… all kinds of people through history have used them. Most of them in religious rituals. they obviously didn’t think it was a drug and if it killed them they would have stopped. Don’t buy into the lies the media feeds you. nothing is as it seems… feed your mind.

For anyone stumbling upon this page like I have long after this story broke, but still unfamiliar with what happened:

The substance taken was later tested and confirmed to be Bromo-benzodifuranyl-isopropylamine, better known as Bromo-DragonFLY. This chemical is thought to be relatively safe if taken in its therapeutic range, but curving upward in toxicity more rapidly than most substances for anything above this range (although it is worth nothing that because this chemical compound was first synthesized in 1998 and since then has remained one of the rarest research chemicals, seeing very limited laboratory testing and recreational use, that this remains a theory, not a fact, and could cause serious reactions in in threshold doses in certain individuals, as well as serious long term health and mental effects in many. Well, what is the therapeutic or recreational dosage for this chemical you might ask? It is thought to be between 200 and 800 micrograms, MICROGRAMS. And due to limited studies and experimentation with this chemical, that is still just an estimate. This makes this one of the most potent hallucinogenic compounds. Anything beyond 1mg, that is 1 milligram, is considered an overdose by most, which should be considered a medical emergency. This substance is also very difficult to synthesize, often resulting in a significant amount of impurities, especially when made in countries with few safety regulations, which are believed to add to its toxic profile. Beyond that, even at “safe” doses, the effects of this chemical compound can last for up to 3 days from some reports, not what most would consider fun, giving it very little recreational value.
This chemical was supplied to these kids through a vendor who was obviously very unscrupulous and cared little for the safety of his customers, as with most cases of this chemical being accidentally distributed. It was either shipped to the wrong customer, or, possibly mislabeled as 2c-e, if it was even labeled.

When considering the massive amount of this chemical these kids took, and that even if the doctors were told the name of this compound, they would likely have never heard of it or what to do in an overdose situation, it is a wonder that more did not die. And unfortunately, it is unknown what long term health problems those who survived may develop.

He was an idiot, as they all were, plain and simple. Lured in by the idea of a new, cheap high. But if prohibition did not exist, and these substances did not need to be sourced on the grey-market, this may not have happened. And do not get me wrong here, some need to be controlled, such as B-DFLY and a range of very addicting and cardiovascular damaging stimulants, such as Methylenedioxypyrovalerone.

Most who delve into the online marketplace do so with a true intent of research. They buy scales and other equipment to properly measure doses and test for active compounds present in what should always be considered, even when labeled, due to stories like this, unknown compounds. They actively read new and old information on these compounds as they become available, and never rush headlong into something like these fools. They know proper dose titration, starting at doses 100′s of times less than what is required, and working up over a long period of weeks, is necessary for any compound obtained, even if used before, unless tested and confirmed 100% pure, to avoid anything like this from happening.

I am sorry, but as someone else has stated, this is filtering out the worthless from the gene pool, or in the case of those who survived, at least pushing them towards that diretion, or at least giving those of us who do use these compounds safely more human testing to examine. And hopefully this will scare those that use these compounds in an unsafe manner a scare to either make them quit, or to begin looking into safe usage and harm reduction strategies. Actually, looking back, I take back the worthless comment I made, looks like he did something after all.

He probably had a shit-ton of other chems in his body, namely MAOIs just like all other cases of phenethylamine fatalities. If you can’t do your studying right, this is what could happen. Let’s wait until we hear back what else was in his system before we rule this out on the 2C-E.