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Posted January 26th, 2008 by minortopics | Permalink

Circumcision dispute: boy gets to decide

The Supreme Court made the right decision, in my opinion, when they offered to allow a 12 year old boy, who’s parents went to court over a dispute about circumcision (the case started when he was 4). The father, who converted to Judaism, wanted to force the boy to get circumcised while the mother did not.

All this money and time and resources wasted over a decision that is RIGHTFULLY the boy’s to make anyway. Why the parents would not respect the boy enough to ask, is beyond me. Let this boy’s voice be heard and hopefully, his decision will not be swayed by the self interests of his parents.

This is not a newborn, but a boy who is almost a teenager. Nobody should force a child, beyond newborn, to mutilate their body via circumcision against their will.

PORTLAND — The Oregon Supreme Court says the wishes of a 12-year-old boy must be determined in a dispute between his divorced parents over whether he should be circumcised.

The father, who lives in Olympia, converted to Judaism in 2004 and wants the boy to be circumcised as part of the faith, saying the decision is best left to the custodial parent. Lower courts sided with the father.

The mother, who lives in Oregon, appealed to the high court, asking for custody and saying the operation could harm her son physically and psychologically.


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  1. Betsy
    Jan 26th, 2008
    [1] | Flag |

    You say: “Nobody should force a child, beyond newborn, to mutilate their body via circumcision against their will.” which leads me to ponder…

    If male genital cutting is truly mutilation, as you assert (and I do not disagree), then how is it in any way acceptable to force this mutilation on anyone regardless of his age?

    I am not anti-circumcision. I believe wholeheartedly that adult men and women should have the right to alter their own genitals in any way they see fit. However, adult men and women should leave the genitals of other people who do not (or are unable to) consent alone unless there is a valid medical need for the procedure.

  2. Mark Lyndon
    Jan 26th, 2008
    [2] | Flag |

    Even if both parents agreed, how can it be right to cut off part of a child’s genitals against their will?

  3. JorgeM
    Jan 29th, 2008
    [3] | Flag |

    I agree with Betsy. Its curious that you take such a strong stand against the forced circumcision of everyone else, but are fine with the forced circumcision of a newborn.

  4. minortopicsAvatar
    Jan 29th, 2008
    [4] | Flag |

    I think there are benefits to circumcision and if done within a few days of birth, can be as well tolerated as a shot or a blood draw. The healing process is probably quicker and there is no attachment (no pun intended) at that point to foreskin.

    After the early newborn period, I believe the cutting of the foreskin to be exponentially traumatic and painful as a boy ages.

  5. Austin
    Jan 29th, 2008
    [5] | Flag |

    The intent and meaning of the sentence in question aside, I think the idea that an infant hours old is being “forced” to have a circumcision is a bit of a stretch, and a misuse of the word. And they have no “will” at that point, beyond looking for a nipple to suckle. Stick with Betsy’s argument about it not being appropriate because the infant can’t consent — it’s much more coherent and less emotional.

    (And yes, I do think semantics matter in such a debate.)

  6. SMT
    Jan 30th, 2008
    [6] | Flag |

    What do you mean by “well tolerated”? Have you seen any of the circumcision videos on YouTube? I would say circumcisions are typically not well tolerated by newborns. I suppose you mean the baby can only scream, yet not verbalize what they are feeling in words? As though, that somehow makes it OK.

    Even if well tolerated, I don’t see how that justifies removing a normal, healthy, sensitive, and functional part of a boy’s penis. If you are making an argument that there are real and tangible benefits that outweigh the risks, then you must apply that to all appropriate ages and say it can be forced on an older child because it is medically necessary. Yet, we know there are no such benefits that outweigh the risks.

    Regarding the “no attachment” issue, I suppose the same can be said of any body part. Based on your logic a parent could remove a newborn boy’s pinkie, or a newborn girl’s labia. They can live fine without them and there are potential medical benefits (decrease in hangnails and decrease in labial cancer).

    As far as trauma and post-op pain are concerned, for circumcisions done later in life, at least proper analgesia can be used and the older patient can say it hurts and request more painkillers. A baby gets nothing more than perhaps some infant Tylenol for a day or so.

    While I am glad that you feel this boy has the right to decline forced genital mutilation, I am puzzled that you don’t understand that his right to ’security of person’ extends all the way to birth, just as it does for girls.

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