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Can men and women be 'just friends'?

By Kristen Chase



Even before Harry and Sally discussed it on their long lonely car ride east, the age old question as to whether men and women can be "just friends" stumped even the most brilliant scholars.

Some say "yes" while others say "absolutely not," and you end up sitting in your gender specific corners at the neighborhood party.

And if you don't, the speculation starts to swirl.

Of course, the reason why it's still up for debate is because there's no cut and dry answer. It really depends on a myriad of factors, many of which differ from person to person.



Biology aside, men are not hormonally charged animals, waiting to pounce on anything with a vagina. And women are not home wreckers, using their cleavage to swipe men away from their wives.

Granted, there will always be a few bad eggs in every bunch that ruin it for everyone who legitimately can maintain a healthy, non-sexual relationship with the opposite sex. There's always someone who knew someone who said he was just friends with the woman from his office. Unfortunately, he forgot to mention the "with benefits" clause, and so the idea that women and men cannot have a completely platonic relationship is perpetuated.

Now just because you might think someone is attractive doesn't mean you necessarily want to jump his bones. Appreciating a person's good looks and acting on them can be mutually exclusive; they have the ability to exist without the other. But yet, a compliment is seen as a come on. And flirtation is seen as foreplay.

So where did all this start? Why do so many people believe that at their core, men and women will always just want to do it with each other -- that at least one person in the friendship, when given free reign and a moment's opportunity, would do the deed without even thinking twice?

Well sadly, individuals with a strong sense of self coupled with an equally solid sense of trust and respect for their partner are a rare breed. And most people, at one point or another, have been burned by someone using the "just friends" excuse.

And regardless of the fact that you are completely comfortable in your own skin and trust your spouse or partner implicitly, he may have been burned hard. So his baggage is now your baggage, and those "gender-specific corners" are looking pleasantly low maintenance.

Now that doesn't mean you should break off all your opposite sex friendships, or relegate yourself to mingling based on matching private parts. But you might want to consider these factors before deciding what to do:

  1. Your friendship should be inclusive. Sure, it's your friend, not necessarily your spouse's, but when you took those vows, you agreed to share. So when they get you they get your spouse. Include the other spouse whenever appropriate –- and that doesn't mean in ménage à trois or partner exchange program. While you might have been friends with them before you were married, you need to realize that you come as a package deal now.

  2. Your friendship should be public. If you're engaging in long awkward emails or instant message sessions at 1 a.m., running out of the room to text or talk on the phone, and scheduling rendezvous on the "down low," you might be getting yourself into an awkward situation. Anything you say in your emails, texts, or face-to-face should be something you would feel perfectly fine saying in front of your spouse.

  3. Your friendship should be mutual. Examine how you became friends and why you're still friends. Often times, opposite sex friendships become awkward when one person is much more invested than the other. If it's obvious that they're getting way more out of it than you are, you might want to rethink the level of your friendship or better what the benefits are for you to stay in it.

When it comes down to it, there really are no set rules to making an opposite sex friendship work. Use your own intuition to determine whether you feel something isn't quite right, and don't feel like the uncool one for needing to put your foot down. Conversely, if you're perfectly fine with opposite sex relationships, don't let society's norms make you feel like a weirdo.

Most importantly, you and your spouse's happiness should be at the top of your priority list. If you are more concerned with your friend's feelings or how you're going to look to other people if you have to break things off, then you might want to reevaluate your definition of friendship and of marriage.

Because no matter what your own personal answer may be to the "just friends" question, there's one truth that everyone can agree on:

Friends don't have sex with friends.




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Kristen Chase left a job as a college music professor for her current career as stay-at-home-mother of three. When she's not perusing the local adult bookstores and foot fetish websites, she maintains several weblogs, including Motherhood Uncensored, Cool Mom Picks, and Parent Bloggers Network.

5 Responses to "Can men and women be 'just friends'?"

1. Dana

Aug 01, 2009 11:37

I have no male friends that my husband isn't friends with, too. And what's strange is I had to actually think about it for more than a few minutes.

It's not that I don't want to have "guy" friends... but I'm not actively seeking out male friends either.

I wonder if that is a subconscious thing? Do we as women naturally hang with our girl friends for fear that having male friends will give us that stereotypical "husband stealer" rep?

2. anonymous

Aug 05, 2009 08:13

As a bisexual, I don't have the privilege of a non-threatening class of friends. So I spend a lot of time saying, I PROmise we're just friends! However, when I don't spend enough time with people outside of the relationship, I'm a bitch to my partner - which makes it important to violate rule number one. And I think the importance of violating rule number two is clear, if you consider things that you talk about with your girl friends -- who doesn't need to complain a little about their spouse? Or let out various sides of themselves that their spouse finds unpleasant?

Rule number three, though, is a good principle for any relationship.

3. Renee

Aug 29, 2009 09:55

Not true; I have sex with friends all the time.

4. p

Sep 17, 2009 07:12

Funny - I'm researching this subject for a talk with my daughter. What I find is this: nearly every article that says "yes" women and men can be friends are written by women. Nearly every article that says "no" is written by men.

Perhaps men might know what is actually going on in their heads a bit better than women?

I can tell you for certain. I have never met a straight guy who only thinks of "friendship". Unless the woman is somehow physically repulsive to the guy, they are ALWAYS thinking of more than friendship.

Now, men won't say this to women directly, but get guys together in a room and I promise you this is exactly what they say. Not once in my life have I ever met a heterosexual guy who looked at a physically attractive woman and said "she'd make a really good friend".

Anyone who says or believes otherwise is a complete and utter fool.

5. Rj Delo

Feb 28, 2010 22:06

WELL I,LL TELL YOU AFTER 2 1/2 YEARS OF SO CALLED FRIENDSHIP WITHA GIRL kit IM 56 YRS OLD SHES 49 MET AND BECAME FRIENDS SLOWLY she at first told me she was celebrate for 8 Yrs as I AFTER MY wife DIED HER EXCUSE IS she couldn,t meet anyone because she suffers from DEPRESSION behavior PERSONALITY disorder and hoarding . SHE DOES SUFFER FROM THESE THINGS BUT SHES A PLAYER told me at first things would eventually work out I HUNG IN THERE FOR OVER 2 YEARS now after years of abuse verbal , emotional , financial I TOLD HER WE SHOULD MAYBE THINK OF MOVING ON SHE DUMPED ME IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE i WOULD NOT BE HER SUGAR DADDY i WAS BEING USED i SAW IT COMMING SHE TOOK UP WITH A 29 YR OLDOIL bURNER REPAIR MEN AFTER 1 WEEK iM HURT DEEPLY i NEVER HAD SEX WITH HER EVEN THOUGH SHE PROMISED WE WERE GETTING CLOSE SO SHE FEEL COMFORTABLE WHAT A FOOL i VE BEEN ,mY THOUGHTS ARE CRAZY AND iM STRUGGLING WITH THIS EVERYDAY . MEN beware of these players She was extremely abuseive to me in these years I ve always been kind conciderate caring Loving generous .I Know everyone says it why did you stay , It was insidious , it just happened I feel asleep at the wheel but more than that she spike my coffee with valuim and turn up the heat to make me drowsy this is a medifore only but I hope you get the point. right now hes with her making love and Im on this dame computer . Im Lost ,tired hurt , want revenge but not to hurt her just teach her a lesson. To make matters worse Im a professional drummer and we are in a busness together she will not call and when I made an attempt to talk she gives me a list or her conditions or call the police , Shes playing it like Im stalking her which Im diffenitely not . Sent me an Email saying sometime in the future she contact me this is after I gave her a Heart felt letter saying Im sorry whatever made her hate me which I did nothing she was my life and I treated her as such now this doesn,t make sense Thanks for nothing

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