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Jessica
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Potty training update Reply with quote

So, I have almost given up on potty training, thought I'd try it again in a few weeks but periodically, I just put underwear on Graham and he complains and sulks about it and asks for his diaper every 30 seconds, when he doesn't get the results he wants, he pees. That's our life.

Today, I pulled out his Bob the Builder underwear and a pull-up and said, pick one -- the big boy underwear for big boys or the pull-ups for babies. I have no idea if you're supposed to do that, but he kept wanting me to put one on and when I did, he desperately wanted the other one. I finally stood firm the third time he put on his undies and off he went to play, albeit complaining and protesting, but he did it and fully expected to peel off pee soaked sweets again.

But, he suprised me. After I felt he was dry (oh, yeah, because his other tactic is to hold it in for hours and hours), I asked if he wanted to go potty. I have been asking Holden to show him any time he pees and can remember to make it a learning moment and Holden is such a trooper, he does it.

So, Graham peed in the toilet. For the first time. He peed in it!

So then I went to Barnes and Noble with him in his underwear because I was convinced he was potty trained and he peed on the carpet at B&N and I changed him in the bathroom, left and didn't tell anyone. Twisted Evil

What?

That's my story. New Years Day 2007. (Oh, and btw, he hasn't peed in the potty since.)
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Jessica
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update part deux. Even though I think this thread is more for me than anyone else, I need journal therapy.

I waited for almost 30 minutes, begging and pleading for Graham to go potty before he got into the tub. I told him that it was icky to take a bath in pee. He finally went and then went again before bed. I went to work this morning and apparently he's been peeing on his own now.
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One thing that I forgot though, how to I convince him to poop in the potty. He pooped in his underwear and Scott had him in a pull-up half the day because he said Graham needed to poop. Evil or Very Mad

I think he should just go in his underware until he "gets" it because he really doesn't get the, "Ask me for a pull-up when you have to poop" scenerio. We did that with Holden and then started phase two of potty training after a few weeks. I think Graham is not gonna get that.

Advice?
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Scout
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats on getting half of it down, anyway. I doubt if it's PC to do this, but I would probably start saying things about how it's so great that he can poop in the potty when he needs to go now, since it must feel so icky and sticky to have yucky poop stuck to your bum.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katie only shat in the toilet because she had a phone conversation with Eileen's Anna who went on and on about how totally disgusting it is to have poo in your pants and how NONE of her friends would ever still be pooing in their pants. Thankfully, that took care of that part (Alex was still crapping his pants until after he was 4), and we just had to focus on the pee part (which ironically, Alex got pretty quickly). Good luck, whatever works, do it!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jessica wrote:

I think he should just go in his underware until he "gets" it because he really doesn't get the, "Ask me for a pull-up when you have to poop" scenerio.


Based on our experience, I would really not do that unless you know that his poop's consistency is, well, consistent (I can't believe I just typed that sentence). We went cold turkey with Ainsley --no pullups ever-- and it was going pretty well until the morning that she had a pumpkin flax muffin and apple juice for breakfast, and then didnt' make it to the potty in time. Shocked (I just threw her clothes away. It was horrifying.) And the whole incident scarred her or something, because since then, it just doesn't bother her to pee in her underwear and be wet. I've just given up for now.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horray for getting over the first hurdle. We had this same problem with Cooper. I swear to the heavens I thought I was going to lose my mind. He *could* do it, he just didn't want to. Evil or Very Mad We tried everything (bribery, begging, sobbing, etc) until one day I had just had it and told him the next time he pooped in his underwear (I tossed the pull-ups when he could pee in the potty-they were a crutch) I was going to start taking toys away. That evening, he pooped in his underwear (just a little) and that was that. We went up to the playroom and started packing (and he is an only grandchild and has so much shit it's almost embarassing). He stood on the steps and cried and cried and cried. I explained that his toys would stay in the attic until he pooped in the potty. He ran to bathroom and pooped IN THE POTTY while we were packing and has never had an accident since. I could not believe it. The toys stayed in the attic for one night (because that was his punishement for pooping in his underwear) and the next day we drug them all out. <sigh> Why is parenting so hard?
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Jessica
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Petulant Pixie wrote:
Katie only shat in the toilet because she had a phone conversation with Eileen's Anna who went on and on about how totally disgusting it is to have poo in your pants and how NONE of her friends would ever still be pooing in their pants. Thankfully, that took care of that part (Alex was still crapping his pants until after he was 4), and we just had to focus on the pee part (which ironically, Alex got pretty quickly). Good luck, whatever works, do it!


OMG. I don't know what, maybe it's because you said "shat" (the funniest word on earth), but that story made me Laughing so hard.

What finally did it for Alex?
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Jessica
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anthromomma wrote:
Based on our experience, I would really not do that unless you know that his poop's consistency is, well, consistent (I can't believe I just typed that sentence). We went cold turkey with Ainsley --no pullups ever-- and it was going pretty well until the morning that she had a pumpkin flax muffin and apple juice for breakfast, and then didnt' make it to the potty in time.


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OMG. Maybe I'm just light headed from lack of food today, but you guys are crackin' me up!

How old is Ainsley?
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Jessica
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

julymom wrote:
Horray for getting over the first hurdle. We had this same problem with Cooper. I swear to the heavens I thought I was going to lose my mind. He *could* do it, he just didn't want to. Evil or Very Mad We tried everything (bribery, begging, sobbing, etc) until one day I had just had it and told him the next time he pooped in his underwear (I tossed the pull-ups when he could pee in the potty-they were a crutch) I was going to start taking toys away.


Hey, if it works, why not? It's not like your damaging him at all, you were merely negotiating.

It's funny though, the experts would probably say not to do that, but of course, wouldn't ya know it, it worked! I know your not supposed to say that pull ups are for babies, but that's what worked for me.
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Anthromomma
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jessica wrote:
How old is Ainsley?


She'll be three in Feb. She's been showing signs of being ready to train since the late summer, but between moving to a new house, getting a new baby sister and the aforementioned incident, it hasnt' happened yet.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For Alex, it was just time. I remember being at a birthday party with him, and it was like after Christmas and Katie was due the end of January, so Alex was 4 and almost 3 months old and he pooped his pants at the party and we had to leave. I wasn't going to change his crap pants there at the party, so we made our apologies and hurried out (didn't say why, just said something came up and we had to leave). There was a pony and everything and he couldn't ride the pony with the condition of his pants, so he cried all the way home. That's the last PUBLIC deficating of himself I remember, so I think it might have had an impact.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My oldest waited until he was four to be potty trained. i tried everything I could think of and nothing was working. When he was 3 1/2 I told him tht the day he turned 4 I was done changing him and he could stay in it for the rest of his life. I gave his the same line for about 6 months. Then the day of his 4th birthday came. I changed him and was ready to put a pull-up on him but instead he jumped up, ran to the potty and used it. When he was done, he came back and simple as can be, told me "Mommy, I'm 4 now and now I use the potty." We've actualy only had 1 accident since then (2+ years) and it was just before the Christmas break this year because the teacher wouldn't let him go to the bathroom at school. (That's a whole other issue!)

My youngest is pooping on the potty but won't do pee there. And he's very particular about using HIS potty at HIS house and won't use anyone else's. So it's a bit slow going but he's doing rather well. If he pees in his pull-up he changes himself, but he has to show me every time he goes poo and if I have to be excited looking in the potty one more day, I think I'm going to go insane! LOL
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My son peed in the toilet in Jan of 04, and then didn't do it ever again until July of that year. Very frustrating. He was fianlly fully trained by Sept of that year, but by then, the preschool I wanted to send him to was full. Dang it!
With both of my kids, I did everything "they" tell you not to: crying, bribing, threatening, calling them a baby. It was awful. I thought my son was a pain to potty train until my daughter started potty training. She was younger than he was when she "was ready" to start, though, so she had waaay more accidents than he did. And the worst thing I did was to tell her that if she learned to use the potty by September, she could start preschool (knowing that her birthday was past the cut-off date). I told her that, not thinking she'd do it in time. Shame on me! I'm gonna go now, to give myself 40 lashes!
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Jessica
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snuffles wrote:
My youngest is pooping on the potty but won't do pee there. And he's very particular about using HIS potty at HIS house and won't use anyone else's.


A lot of kids are like that I think. I don't think Holden has ever pooped anywhere but at home. I think he holds it until he's home. Hate to say it, but I don't blame him.
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snuffles
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Jessica, I didn't realise that it was common. It makes me feel better to know he's not weird!!! LOL
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