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I flunked a sixth grade history paper
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Petulant Pixie
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it is funny and the best part is that it sets a precedent. The "Ramsey Project" can live in family infamy to be referenced countless times in the future--for all three, "Don't ask your mother about history, remember the Ramsey Project?"
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mommy2three
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confused Math B has done me in with the oldest, I just can't wrap my brain around this stuff anylonger.

I literally Laughed Out Loud when she got her summer project back for AP world history this fall....I told her to correct the spelling used for her topic as it was a popular spelling and not the correct spelling....teacher was impressed and embarassed.

When I went to school we didn't have 13 yo's taking college level courses....I'm stunned by what is expected these days....HS isn't any fun. Evil or Very Mad
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mommy2three
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Petulant Pixie wrote:
Yes, it is funny and the best part is that it sets a precedent. The "Ramsey Project" can live in family infamy to be referenced countless times in the future--for all three, "Don't ask your mother about history, remember the Ramsey Project?"


EWWW! I've been banned from proofreading. Embarassed
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Petulant Pixie
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is ridiculous! I remember my first research paper in 6th grade, it was on Armadillos and I got all my information from a National Geographic book (Explore the Armadillo or something like that) and the current World Book encylcopedia. I got an A+. It just seems so unreal that they expect the kids to go so far out of their way to do this!

Next year he has a science project. Oh, that ought to be fun. No, really, it should! Very Happy
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mommy2three
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Petulant Pixie wrote:
It is ridiculous! I remember my first research paper in 6th grade, it was on Armadillos and I got all my information from a National Geographic book (Explore the Armadillo or something like that) and the current World Book encylcopedia. I got an A+. It just seems so unreal that they expect the kids to go so far out of their way to do this!

Next year he has a science project. Oh, that ought to be fun. No, really, it should! Very Happy


It is unreal, and rediculous.

I've been forwarned by a parent that next year for chemestry I'll need to put out some money for a computer program so that our daughter can hand in her labs, whatever happened to hand written labs???

The last several years the Regents have been battling out the question of scientific calculators in the junior high and highschools, at $120 dollars its an expensive propositition for every parent to shell out and risk having it stolen only for the convenience of the teachers. The ruling just this past November has eliminated that requirement, they'll be available in each classroom in our district and the kids can leave theirs at home. Still, I've bought THREE since our daughter started 7th grade.

We have a great library system here....kids still have a tough time tracking down some of the things they need for projects. Like you PP, I completed my projects with a set of encyclopedia's and once in a great while I went to the library for more research, I don't understand why we need to go to such great lenghths to teach the skill of research to our kids, without a doubt they all get it once they hit HS and college, so why are we rushing this?
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Petulant Pixie
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Computer programs and calculators--At Alex's school, each math class has a specific calculator requirement. This year, for 6th grade math, it was the cheapest--a Texas Instrument something or other for $45. Next year in algebra, it will be the $120 one. BUT, since it is required, if it's stolen, then the school is responsible for it. That's how they discourage ipods and other things, by saying that if it's not required for the class, the school isn't responsible if it's stolen.

Also, there is this waaaay cool music program. Smartmusic. It is unbelievable. I mean, we all know how far technology has advanced since we were in high school, but to see it applied to the arts like this is amazing. I'm all into new technology and I'm sure in chemistry that we'll have to have some specific program, too. But, like for the smartmusic, which typically runs $120, we got a student discount and the annual subscription is $20. Is there something like that for the computer lab program???

Overall, I love this school. I think the paper was too much and I do believe that if he'd been working real hard and getting things in on time that the teacher wouldn't have graded this paper so low. I mean that as more of an insult to him than to her. The paper was short and it generally sucked, but *I* do believe it held the points she said she was looking for. But, since it's him and he hasn't been doing great work all sememster, why should she LOOK for those points. Why not just glance it over and think, hmmm, typical work for this kid this year and write it off as such? I don't BLAME her. But, I do wish he'd advocate for more points for himself by showing her where he really did do the things she asked for. But, it's his grade and he wants to be done with it.

My child is not perfect, lol, he's a good, smart kid, but faaaaaaar from perfect.
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Scout
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol! I do think it's a good idea to ask for a rubric. here, kids have to be given a rubric that clearly lists expectations for each grade. For example "An A paper will have x, y, and z." It is really helpful for Calvin's science projects and stuff because there's no guessing about what the teacher wants.
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