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Princesso
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Location: California

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:37 pm    Post subject: BFIP cont... Reply with quote

grrr on jury duty in California. I got called when Avery was a month old and I asked them if they had pumping facilities and when they said no I told them the better let me off then as squirting milk all over the jury box was bound to be distracting. I got called again when I was on bedrest with Jaime and they didn't want to let me off since I had been postponed once. My dr even faxed them papers saying that doing jury duty could cause my daughter to be born at 28 weeks. They still wouldn't let me off. They finally let me off when I said I was going to get a lawyer and sue them if something happened to Jaime. They should be more understanding about things.
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Petulant Pixie
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Joined: 22 Apr 2002
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Location: flyover country

PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:25 am    Post subject: BFIP cont... Reply with quote

I don't actually know the laws in my state. Or the state I was living in at the time (TX, I believe). I guess I should know my stuff before I go spouting off Embarassed
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Scout
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Joined: 20 Dec 2002
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Location: home of the blues

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:11 am    Post subject: BFIP cont... Reply with quote

I got called to jury duty when Joshua was a newborn. I got hi ped to write a note saying he was exc. breasfed and that it would be necessary for me to be able to pump or have him brought to me to be fed at intervals. But then when I got to the thing where they give you your dates, they gave us this long spiel about how they do not let anyone off, even if you are a surgeon or you own and operate a biz and serving means having to be closed those days. Then they said they allow teachers, doctors, and Real Estate agents ( Question ) to pick a date up to 12 months out, so I was able to pick dates when Joshua was closer to a year and I could go several hours without discomfort.

I think it's shitty about small business owners, too. That is someone's livelihood, you know?
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Petulant Pixie
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:31 am    Post subject: BFIP cont... Reply with quote

Well, I've done some investigating into the laws regarding jury duty, and as I thought...most of the web sites that give such information give it in the context of breastfeeding and jury duty--not just having small children.

Also, I found a web site that lists "family friendly" jury duty. And, as an example, they gave the exemption for this state:
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(3)”...A person having primary care and custody of a child or children under 10 years of age whose health and/or safety would be jeopardized by the absence of the prospective juror; or a person who is essential to the care of aged or infirm persons…”
but, then followed it up with this
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Unfortunately, The ORIGINAL text (below) was GUTTED from H.F. 1865 prior to its passage:
“A nursing mother shall, upon request, be excused from jury service if she is responsible for the daily care of the child and is not regularly employed at a location other than her household.”


See? It's all about the breastfeeding. The folks at the web site weren't happy because a specific exclusion wasn't made for breastfeeding mothers, although, the exclusion the state had would certainly encompass the breastfeeding child, too.

That's my point. The breastfeeding activits seem to be really only concerned about promoting their cause, and not so concerned about the well-being of all babies/mothers.
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Sewingsiren
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Joined: 12 Nov 2004
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Location: the land of cotton

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: BFIP cont... Reply with quote

Petulant Pixie wrote:
I also, I found a web site that lists "family friendly" jury duty. And, as an example, they gave the exemption for this state:
Quote:
(3)”...A person having primary care and custody of a child or children under 10 years of age whose health and/or safety would be jeopardized by the absence of the prospective juror; or a person who is essential to the care of aged or infirm persons…”
but, then followed it up with this
Quote:
Unfortunately, The ORIGINAL text (below) was GUTTED from H.F. 1865 prior to its passage:
“A nursing mother shall, upon request, be excused from jury service if she is responsible for the daily care of the child and is not regularly employed at a location other than her household.”


I must inject here that something is wrong with this quote. If my memory serves me correctly women were not allowed to serve on juries until after the 19th amendment was passed in 1920. I do not see how or why such a provision would have ever been included in 1865.

Petulant Pixie wrote:

See? It's all about the breastfeeding. The folks at the web site weren't happy because a specific exclusion wasn't made for breastfeeding mothers, although, the exclusion the state had would certainly encompass the breastfeeding child, too.

That's my point. The breastfeeding activits seem to be really only concerned about promoting their cause, and not so concerned about the well-being of all babies/mothers.


Well, I am certainly not arguing that Breastfeeding organizations and breastfeeding activism are not all about breastfeeding, they are. But your 1st quote stating what the actual law is ,sort of proves that the law (in that state) is pretty neutral about it.
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Petulant Pixie
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Location: flyover country

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 11:46 am    Post subject: BFIP cont... Reply with quote

I don't think that the 1865 was the year. I'm not sure what that number was, but I don't think it was a date.

Interestingly enough, though, when I searched the state's jury service website, it said nothing about any exemptions for child care. So, I don't even know how reliable that website is.

Apparently MY state has no standard exemptions for child care. You can send in a request for a delay, and they decide if it's worthy. My county, however, gives you $50 a day for day care expenses if you're the primary caregiver for a child under 10 (I guess that means that 10 year-olds are able to be left home alone all day???), which wouldn't really help either, since we don't have anyone that could care for the kids during the day.

I know, this has gotten waaaay off topic, but my original point was, if I were breastfeeding and called, then I'd have all sorts of organizations to back me up.
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