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What happens to us when we die?
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new053105
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Location: Portland, OR

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 9:11 pm    Post subject: Re: What happens to us when we die? Reply with quote

Slackermomma wrote:
My point about understanding the mind of God was, I'm a creation of His. My child may be "created in my image," but she's still a child and her mind doesn't operate on my level. I don't expect my mind to operate on God's level, because . . . well, I'm not God.

I just read the Bible all the way through for the first time this year, and it was amazing because it reconciled to me the OT God and the NT God, and how they could be the same. Israel was rebellious, worshipped idols, sacrificed their children, basically told God over and over again to go stuff it, but He always loved them regardless. God makes the claim that He is holy, and that there are consequences for rebelling against him . . . but because He loves us, He pays a high price to reconcile us to Himself.

I can understand if you are happy and fulfilled without God, that the idea of sinfulness and repentance and handing control of your life over to God wouldn't seem appealing. I don't know because that wasn't my experience of life.

Although Bible studies, church, etc., can lead us to God, they in themselves are not the comfort. It's Jesus who is the comfort.


I never quite got that handing it all over to God. How is that done? Do you wake up in the morning and go "okay God it's yours." and does he then tell you what to do? Honestly, I have never had hardcore religious experiences, and honestly God has never spoken outright to me. I am kinda bummed about that since I grew up in organized religion, but oh well. If anyone wants to fess up and claim God talks to them, my ears are open. But my mother always tells me that when my life sucks "hand it over to God honey", and I am like uh okay." Again, it's a platitude that things will be better.

I mean c'mon some of the control is God (if you are a believer) but most certainly we have some control as well. If we didn't then there's no free will, so how can God have total control and there's free will as well? It makes no absolute sense.


And, I have read the Bible as well, and I have also studied the origins. It's been translated over and over, and in fact, it was 20 years after Jesus's death/passing that the first book or a book (since it's not the first) was written, which was Mark.

Therefore, I do feel there is validity to the Bible, OTOH I don't think it's as black and white as other Christians would like to believe.
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Slackermomma
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:21 pm    Post subject: What happens to us when we die? Reply with quote

OH boy, I'm a little nervous posting things like this because it can seem . . . oh, well, here I go. God does speak to me.

NOT like a big voice booming out of the sky, or an audible voice telling me what to do. More like, a whisper in my spirit, a knowing. Or sometimes (Oh, Lordie, here I go) through a prophetic word spoken through another Christian.

For example, my husband and I were not planning on having kids. There was an African man at my church preaching about the gifts of the Spirit. He said that there was an anointing (spirit-filled Christian speak for a specific move of God to do something) for people to freely exercise their gifts. I looked at a woman, an older woman, and heard in my spirit, "butterfly." I strongly felt impressed in my spirit that I was to tell her, "To God you are like a butterfly."

I was terrified, like, hey, am I a kook or what? But I wanted to bless this lady. So I went to her and said the butterfly bit. Her eyes IMMEDIATELY filled with tears and she said, "Look at my ring." It was a multi-jeweled butterfly. Through her tears she said, "Butterflies are the most beautiful thing in the world to me -- my house is filled with them." In other words, God had used me to tell this woman that she was beautiful to Him in a very touching way.

That same day, a guy came up to me and said, "Umm, I'm really nervous about telling you this, but I feel like God wanted me to say something to you about . . . about your reproductive system. There's been some problem . . . something has been wrong, but you're going to be painting a room pink soon!" I stared at him. "You're going to have a little girl -- soon."

We weren't planning kids, I was actively avoiding pregnancy, we weren't ready. But then he came over to me with my husband and one of our pastors. They were under the impression that we were unable to have kids (I didn't explain the whole story) but I had always secretly been afraid that I couldn't conceive. My husband was giving me a look like, what have you been telling these people?

They prayed over me and I had peace.

Then while I was at church a few weeks later, I felt a very strong impression in my spirit -- You will have a child by the end of this year (this was in Jan. 2004). My husband was like, sorry honey, no, we can't. No way.

Yet exactly two months after the meeting with that man I became pregnant -- (I laugh and tell my husband there could have only been 4 sperm competing for the job --) with my beautiful little girl. She was born in October -- before the end of the year.

The whole pregnancy I was full of joy because I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that God planned the baby. We were broke, my husband was in the process of starting a new business, we didn't have health insurance -- but I was happy, and it all worked out, because I KNEW that God had spoken to me in these various ways.

That's just an example of how He speaks to me.
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new053105
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:00 am    Post subject: What happens to us when we die? Reply with quote

Slacker - I am not going to make fun of you. I have had plenty of friends who have had similar experiences, I just have never had one.

That's great that you were able to have a little girl!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi Jessica!

your question is a interesting topic. I suggest you to read about theory of evolution and the stages of society, maybe it can help. also the principles of life cycle and food chain...
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peglegginmegan
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:01 am    Post subject: my opinion....or lack thereof Reply with quote

I read most of the replies on here, but not all, so I hope I'm not repeating anyone. I've decided that I don't know, but I hope there is a heaven. My response to the whole idea is to just try to live my life as if there were a heaven that I need to get to. So, I try to do the best things I can each moment while I'm alive. In the back of my head there's this tiny Southern Baptist preacher who's screaming right now, letting me know that I'm not going to get there because I don't have enough faith. For the most part, I'm a Humanist. But every once in a while, that little preacher (waving a bible in the air) causes my heart to seize up and I'm convinced I need to get myself to church.
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momof3_MOD
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like to think that when you die you go to heaven and get to spend your time learning from your mistakes and get to spend time with your loved ones that have already passed on too. I also like to think that you get to go back (to earth) to see whats going on with your family. I hate to think that life is here and then just gone. There has to be a reason for us here. I like to think that we are here to spread Gods good word and then report back to Him.

Im not really sure how or what I think about reincarnation. There are so many stories that Ive heard and read that makes me think its very possible. I just dont know.

My son used to talk to ppl that werent there. He used to be afraid of some of them. It scared me to death that every now and then he would start talking to someone and then tell me that he didnt like them and wished they would go away. It scared me even more when he called one of them, "Kemido" (key-mI-doe) and then a couple of weeks later our house almost burnt down and my hubs said that que mado in spanish means burnt. It was almost like someone or something was trying to warn us. Creepy!

Anyway, sorry I got off topic. My beliefe is heaven! Wink
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marybeth+willsMommy
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe our spirit stays behind to make sure those that are grieving us are ok. My Grandaddy died suddenly of a heart attack when I was 18 and it killed me. He and I were very close and one day as Grandmama and I were walking in the garden (not long after he passed) we both suddenly stopped and heard him say "I am ok." We both heard and it although I still was hurting so badly, it gave me comfort. Now, 15 years later when I am stressed or upset, I have dreams about him and it calms me. After the spirit has seen that their loved ones are ok, then it is free to go on to Heaven and wait to be reunited.
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