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TheBean
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:31 pm    Post subject: update Reply with quote

I dont know where to stick this - so I'll keep it here on the grief board.

This is all like those books - A Series of Unfortunate Events - it is unbelievable.

So after calling 3 places yesterday and no one will see me I called my general practicioner. I went there today - get this, they wouldn't examine me. They listened to my story and then called Women's Baby Hospital and got me an appt. for tomorrow there. But don't you all find it odd that no one wants to see or examine me?

So I go tomorrow. My doctor told me they didn't bring any of amnio stuff up since it doesn't have anything to do with the prolapsed uterus. DH and I think they didn't purposely tell them about the amnio or the d&C, just to get me in there with an appt. I happen to agree.

You should have saw the dr's face when I told her the story. And I really kept things barebones. She stopped me and asked, they went through your placenta? She was just in shock.

So hopefully tomorrow I can get a pessary or something to keep my insides from falling out of my body. I was hoping to be able to do some stuff with Anna this weekend, but i can't walk around right now!

I contacted my dr office and am getting a copy of my medical file. In about 2 weeks I'll have the results from the tests done. DH is contacting an attorney - I didn't want to, but now that I am dealing with the uterus thing I agree that we need to talk to someone. Losing the baby is one thing - I will grieve and move on - affecting my quality of life through damaging me in the d&C procedure and then telling me I need a hysterectomy is another thing however, and this doctor will be sued.
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Jessica
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:37 pm    Post subject: Re: update Reply with quote

eileenthebean wrote:
I contacted my dr office and am getting a copy of my medical file. In about 2 weeks I'll have the results from the tests done. DH is contacting an attorney - I didn't want to, but now that I am dealing with the uterus thing I agree that we need to talk to someone. Losing the baby is one thing - I will grieve and move on - affecting my quality of life through damaging me in the d&C procedure and then telling me I need a hysterectomy is another thing however, and this doctor will be sued.


I'm usually very conservative about malpractise suits. I think there are far too many, and that doctors are human and make mistakes, and that our expectations are that they are to be perfect and if they're not, then "we'll" sue.

But in your case, I am 100% supportive. I think this sounds like a malpractise issue, hands down. He was so negligent and I don't care how sorry he is. He needs to think before he takes short cuts and hopefully, if you go this route, he will not be doing this to someone else.

Good luck in getting your health back and getting some closure, whatever route you go.
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honeybee
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:39 pm    Post subject: update Reply with quote

I'm confused...did I miss a post about something?? The d&c was botched?

Dear Lord, Eileen. You don't deserve this. I am so sorry.

Sue the pants off the asshole. Twisted Evil
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TheBean
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:45 pm    Post subject: Re: update Reply with quote

honeybee wrote:
I'm confused...did I miss a post about something?? The d&c was botched?

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Perhaps. I now have a prolapsed uterus - basically body parts falling out of my body to be blunt and gross. I can't walk around. I can only lie on my back.

It MAY be due to the trauma of the d&C and will repair itself - I found THIS out from researching on the internet.

I saw my OB about it yesterday and he claimed that I had this problem when he did the D&C, and that the solution was a hysterectomy if it didn't fix itself in a few months.

So, based on his callous response and concern to my reproductive health I am suing his ass. I firmly believe that the D&C caused this and it was NOT a pre-existing condition because 1) I would have known about it and 2) HE would have known it and it would have been in my medical files/charts prior to now.

In addition, from my research I NOW know that a hysterectomy would be the END of the road and there are options like pessaries to hold stuff in place while I heal, and if I don't heal there is surgery that DOESNT involve removing my uterus to consider.

So, AGAIN he is mis-managing my case, and THAT is the reason he will be sued.
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Jessica
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:47 pm    Post subject: update Reply with quote

Go for it Eileen. Sue the bastard.

What a fucker.
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TheBean
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:52 pm    Post subject: update Reply with quote

This is kind of funny in a sad/pathetic way. When I told the bare bones facts to my general practiioner doctor she sat there blinking at me stunned.

She was totally shocked. Shocked

As is everyone it seems that hears this story. I had to call insurance on the phone yesterday to get them to pay for my record transfer and get their blessing on a second opinion. The poor girl was sobbing on the phone. Rolling Eyes I mean it was kind of funny, in a pathetic/sad sort of way. People are just shocked.

I'm beyond the sadness and shock now. I have no time for the grief of the baby right now, I have things I need to take care of to get myself healthy and papers and forms to take care of. I mean - I AM grieving - if that makes any sense. but I just don't have much time for sitting around having a pity party. I am on the phone constantly it seems trying to get appts lined up and paperwork completed.

I did tell DH I'm not dealing wtih the entire attorney thing - adn I want him to hold off contacting anyone until I have all my medical files in hand.

I am consuming massive amounts of tea and have had 3 chocolates today though. Laughing
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Rebecca_R
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:05 pm    Post subject: update Reply with quote

The doctor is trying to cover his ass! I agree, he is clearly negligent. Okay, so is he admitting you had prolapsed uterus BEFORE the d&c and failed to document it and treat you for it?! That is malpractice right there! Not to mention all the other stuff surrounding the amnio.

I really do hope you find a better ob then him, and you get your health sorted out first and foremost. Did your doctor ever even tell you the sex of the baby? Will you be able to know about chromosomal abnormalities (or lack of) and gender when the amnio results come back? This ob guy has turned out to be such an asshole. I'm so sorry for all you are going through Eileen. It would make sense that your condition now, happening directly after your d&c, would correlate to being a side affect of the d&c. kwim?

I'm glad you were able to get an appt at that womans hospital. My advice is to be very vocal about seeing a RE specialist.
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Scout
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:48 pm    Post subject: update Reply with quote

ITA with everyone else. I'm not normally big on litgation, but in this case he was clearly at fault and needs to be held accountable. Sue the bastard.
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DietCokeHead
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:03 am    Post subject: update Reply with quote

Eileen, I hope your appointment today goes ok. Please let us know!
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TheBean
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 11:31 am    Post subject: update Reply with quote

I like this new doctor. He is holding off on the pessary thing since things are better today than the other day...but he was willing to give me one if I wanted. he left it up to me to decide. Decided to wait another week and see how things go. He said the D&C contributed to it, but really my hormones are making everything lax and stretchy (my wording not his) and it will be a few days to weeks before I get back to normal and the uterus shrinks back up.

In the meantime, no lifting, no abdominal exercises, no coughing ( Rolling Eyes ), no strenuous exercise.

I didn't talk to him about the amnio or d&C...other than I had them. He apologized to me for the other doctor's comments regarding the hysterectomy.

I have all my medical records - at least I "think" they gave me everything. There is NOTHING written about going through the placenta during the amnio! Oh, and of course, there is nothing written about me having a prolapsed uterus in the 4 years I have gone there (no shocker there). Everything is marked, "normal", including my exam in November!

The doctor pulled me aside when I got my records, wanting to know if I was going to a surgeon because that is what his staff told him. I responded, 'Uh no, I'm going to my general prac. to get a referral to a specialist because I don't feel that surgery is warranted or appropriate at this point!' He then clarified what he told me the day before. I pretty much just sat there not saying anything, and then he said they can do the pessary there, and they could do the other surgery (non-hysterectomy) as well. I told him that I didn't feel I was comfortable going to his practice any longer and would be finding another OB...and then I left.

He told me the results came back from the hospital regarding the baby and there was nothing indicating the baby's demise - the amnio results aren't back yet.

I will be gettign copies of both those results as well as the hospital records of the surgery done on Sat. I'm not reading them though - I'll leave that for someone else.
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Scout
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:19 pm    Post subject: update Reply with quote

Eileen, I know that there are herbs the midwives use when they have a client with a prolapsed uterus. They make it all tighten back up. Do you want me to find out what it is they use? I know someone whose whole uterus came out after the baby during a homebirth. The midwives just put it back in and gave her the herbs to make it clamp down, and she was fine after that.
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honeybee
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 4:48 pm    Post subject: update Reply with quote

I know Red Raspberry Leaf tones and conditions the uterus.

It's best to drink it as a strong tea. I drank 2-3 cups a day when I was pregnant with Owen. It tastes very bitter, but you get used to it. You can buy it at health food places....I bought mine at Whole Foods.
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MainstreamMom
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:33 pm    Post subject: update Reply with quote

I'm so sorry you are dealing with this Eileen on top of everything else. I hope you heal on your own and don't need surgery. I'm praying for you.
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